MediaWiki talk:Become an editor/en

Why do we need an "en" page for this one exception?

Confused... I thought we did not need en versions? User:Pyrrhus ~Njt (talk) 21:42, October 1, 2019 (EDT)

Great catch Njt!!! Yes, we don't need "en" versions to use {{int:page-name}}. But we do need them to use the PAGELANGUAGE construct you proposed: {{MediaWiki:page-name/{{PAGELANGUAGE}}}} As a reminder, PAGELANGUAGE is used only for messages embedded within the content of a page, which must agree with the page content setting. This construct will only very rarely be needed, as most interface and template translations will use "int:". Hope this is clear. If not, maybe we need some sleep!

Pyrrhus (talk) 22:07, October 1, 2019 (EDT)

I think my mind has melted... lol I can't quite take that in. Time for me to sleep too. ~Njt (talk) 23:12, October 1, 2019 (EDT)

LOL! Yes, get some good sleep! (if you can i guess) You can also look back at our previous discussion: [[1]]

Pyrrhus (talk) 00:50, October 2, 2019 (EDT)

So this page is different because it's used as a transclusion, eg on the Welcome page. Shouldn't these transclusions be in a new category, to identify them more easily? Also what do you think about creating a custom system message for each Portal name, and for the word Portal (currently translated as "community portal" only)? This would make it easier for future translations. Possibly also the word "primer" and/or the name of each of our primers? ~Njt (talk) 14:11, October 3, 2019 (EDT)

We don't need such a transclusion category because this will only include the Welcome page, but not any other page. As we previously discussed, interface messages are only to be used for the user interface, not for page content. So we don't want to create any interface messages for use in page content translation. The Welcome page is an exception only because it contains search box code that might confuse translators when they go to create Welcome/de, Welcome/fr, Welcome/es, etc. Perhaps we should eliminate this transclusion, as it's not really necessary, just a minor convenience for translators. Hope this is clear.

Pyrrhus (talk) 22:10, October 5, 2019 (EDT)