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:::This is all new to me.  I’ve seen [[User:Kmdenmark]] fixing “CS1” errors but I don’t know exactly what these errors are.  Do we know which templates tend to spit out errors?  Thanks.
:::This is all new to me.  I’ve seen [[User:Kmdenmark]] fixing “CS1” errors but I don’t know exactly what these errors are.  Do we know which templates tend to spit out errors?  Thanks.
:::[[User:Pyrrhus|Pyrrhus]] ([[User talk:Pyrrhus|talk]]) 20:16, 15 April 2019 (EDT)
:::[[User:Pyrrhus|Pyrrhus]] ([[User talk:Pyrrhus|talk]]) 20:16, 15 April 2019 (EDT)
:::: Here is a helpful Wikipedia link to CS1 errors for dates: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:CS1_errors#ExamplesOfUnacceptableDates
:::: The most frequent error that our citation generator makes is "Ambiguous date range or year and month." E.g., it will generate a date as such: |date=2002-03.  The computer doesn't know if you mean Mar 2002 or the years 2002-2003. The easiest correction is to change it to Mar 2002 or March 2002. You don't need to abbreviate the month, but if you do, the program wants a 3-letter abbreviation.
:::: The second most common date error is when the contributor uses the wrong punctuation. E.g., February 28 1900 will read as an error bec it has no comma; it must be changed to February 28, 1900 or 28 February 1900 or Feb 28, 1900 or 1900-02-28. Use of slashes also elicits an error message. E.g., 12/6/87 must be changed to December 6, 1987 or Dec 6, 1987 or 1987-12-06. 
:::: I hope that helps.  [[User:Kmdenmark|Kmdenmark]] ([[User talk:Kmdenmark|talk]]) 12:03, 16 April 2019 (EDT)

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Citations Guideline?

I notice that under "Learn more" there is "Citations Guideline to come".
Is someone still planning on writing a Citations Guideline or is this something that can be removed?
Thanks.
Pyrrhus (talk) 21:21, 14 March 2019 (EDT)

I have removed that line. If anyone writes a “Citations guideline”, please put it back. Thanks.
Pyrrhus (talk) 18:03, 15 April 2019 (EDT)

Dates

I am a bit confused about the “Dates” section. Are we supposed to use the three-letter abbreviation for months, or can we spell out the full month?
Pyrrhus (talk) 18:03, 15 April 2019 (EDT)

One consideration is refs: I think some templates will spit out an error message if you only use the first three leters? So that might be a reason to go with the full name, if we'd like to standardize this. Canele (talk) 18:13, 15 April 2019 (EDT)
Three letter months eg Jun is what I've been doing, I think that may already be the standard. Templates give errors for DD MMM YYY and YYYY-MM but not MMM DD, YYYY - or MMM YYYY - which is our standard. I tried to improve the help information that comes up with date errors a while ago. I don't know why but the citation generator comes up with the wrong date styles. notjusttired (talk) 19:34, 15 April 2019 (EDT)
This is all new to me. I’ve seen User:Kmdenmark fixing “CS1” errors but I don’t know exactly what these errors are. Do we know which templates tend to spit out errors? Thanks.
Pyrrhus (talk) 20:16, 15 April 2019 (EDT)
Here is a helpful Wikipedia link to CS1 errors for dates: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:CS1_errors#ExamplesOfUnacceptableDates
The most frequent error that our citation generator makes is "Ambiguous date range or year and month." E.g., it will generate a date as such: |date=2002-03. The computer doesn't know if you mean Mar 2002 or the years 2002-2003. The easiest correction is to change it to Mar 2002 or March 2002. You don't need to abbreviate the month, but if you do, the program wants a 3-letter abbreviation.
The second most common date error is when the contributor uses the wrong punctuation. E.g., February 28 1900 will read as an error bec it has no comma; it must be changed to February 28, 1900 or 28 February 1900 or Feb 28, 1900 or 1900-02-28. Use of slashes also elicits an error message. E.g., 12/6/87 must be changed to December 6, 1987 or Dec 6, 1987 or 1987-12-06.
I hope that helps. Kmdenmark (talk) 12:03, 16 April 2019 (EDT)