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===Translations: Chinese === I just want to check on Chinese, you listed zh as a language we should translate all templates into, but I want to check if you actually mean zh-hant (Chinese traditional). I don't think there is a general "zh" for Chinese, I see zh-hant or zh-hans (Chinese Simplified) only in translatewiki. Zh-hant seems more widely used. [[User:Notjusttired|Njt]] ([[User talk:Notjusttired|talk]]) 17:52, September 25, 2019 (EDT) :Hi [[User:Notjusttired|Njt]]. The prioritized language codes are listed here: [[mepedia:All_languages_codes%23Prioritizing_languages_for_translation]]. Note that I recommend zh-hans, not zh-hant. Zh-hans is the written language used in mainland china and is understood by many chinese outside mainland china. Zh-hant, however, is used in taiwan and is not well known on mainland china. Zh-hant may appear to be used more, but that is only because taiwanese are more connected to the internet. I believe the taiwanese should be able to read zh-hans as well. That’s why I recommend zh-hans, not zh-hant. Also note that are also two written languages for norwegian as well. “nb” is bokmal, which is used by 80% of norwegians, and “nn” is nynorsk, which is the written language taught in schools and is used by about 20% of norwegians. Since all norwegians should be able to understand both nb and nn, it probably doesn’t matter which we use. Hope this helps. :[[User:Pyrrhus|Pyrrhus]] ([[User talk:Pyrrhus|talk]]) 18:50, September 25, 2019 (EDT) :Oh, and my father recommended some tips if you ever have to use automated translation: [[help:Foreign_languages%23Tips.2Fcaution_regarding_automated_translation]]. Hope this helps [[User:Notjusttired|Njt]]. :[[User:Pyrrhus|Pyrrhus]] ([[User talk:Pyrrhus|talk]]) 18:55, September 25, 2019 (EDT) ::I read the opposite for Chinese, it's contradictory depending where you check online. I'm happy to do either though. If you could update the language codes referred to that would help. There is also [http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/langcodes-keyword.php?SearchTerm=Norwegian&SearchType=ALL no for Norwegian], which seems to have more translations on translatewiki.net. Can you again update for which you want using. [[User:Notjusttired|Njt]] ([[User talk:Notjusttired|talk]]) 19:03, September 25, 2019 (EDT) :::[[User:Notjusttired|Njt]], in that case we should probably do both zh-hans and zh-hant, so no one can say that we are choosing sides in a political matter. Note that wikipedia accepts articles in either zh-hans or zh-hant, and then does an automatic conversion to make sure that all content is available in both zh-hans and zh-hant equally. :::[[User:Pyrrhus|Pyrrhus]] ([[User talk:Pyrrhus|talk]]) 19:19, September 25, 2019 (EDT) :::Ok, [[User:Notjusttired|Njt]] now I’m confused. I just set my language preference to “zh” and everything showed up in “zh-hans”. Does MediaWiki treat “zh” as equal to “zh-hans”? :::[[User:Pyrrhus|Pyrrhus]] ([[User talk:Pyrrhus|talk]]) 20:05, September 25, 2019 (EDT) ::::Someone on Wikipedia reported the same in July, and said it should fall back to zh-hant not zh-hans. Looks like a [https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/272499/22/languages/messages/MessagesLzh.php php change] for fallback languages. To be honest I don't think it's worth getting into this. We should just decide on either zh-hant or zh-hans, plus which Norwegian one we want, and go with that. Users can let us know if there's a problem, but at the moment there aren't any pages translated into those languages. Also when the LocalizationUpdate extension is installed all all missing system messages that are available will be added. We only need to check what's missing after the extension is installed, I don't know when that will be. [[User:Notjusttired|Njt]] ([[User talk:Notjusttired|talk]]) 20:38, September 25, 2019 (EDT) :::::That makes sense, [[User:Notjusttired|Njt]]. I’ll do both zh-hans and zh-hant, but if you want to just pick one, that makes sense, too. For norwegian, I’ll just do “no”, even though I have no idea if that means “nb” or “nn”. Thanks for raising this! :::::[[User:Pyrrhus|Pyrrhus]] ([[User talk:Pyrrhus|talk]]) 20:46, September 25, 2019 (EDT) ::::::zh-hant plus no sounds good to me, with zh-hans being added (hopefully). Translatewiki has a lot of "no" translations. I have not seen any way to monitor language choices of users, but many browsers these days have Autotranslate features / extensions. Btw, the Cleanup templates will be taking some time to do, and rely on LocalizationUpdate plus some custom system messages I am creating. It's a lot of templates, a lot of languages for each, and categories for each template. So if I haven't updated the translation table it means that some aren't yet covered. [[Template_talk:Cleanup]] contains a lot of the new system message names, some like the Lqt_noreason just say non-specific things like "No reason given" and belong to am extension we don't plan to install. It means far less mistakes than the Google translate nightmare. [[User:Notjusttired|Njt]] ([[User talk:Notjusttired|talk]]) 20:58, September 25, 2019 (EDT) :::::::Sounds good! Thanks! :::::::[[User:Pyrrhus|Pyrrhus]] ([[User talk:Pyrrhus|talk]]) 21:19, September 25, 2019 (EDT)
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