Talk:Medical gaslighting

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Wrong concept -- 10:03, September 17, 2022 (UTC)[edit source | reply | new]

This is not medical gaslighting. It’s psychologisation, as described by Goudsmit and Gadd in the Psychologist, October 1991. Gaslighting, and I know this well, has a malicious element. There is secondary gain eg money. Or sometimes, you just join in to help a narcissist. In the case of ME, one can not prove malicious intent. Prejudice, sexism, stupidity and denial, but not the malice associated with gaslighting.

I saw no reference to the concept of psychologisation and the journalists from the Guardian would not have known about it.

It’s up to others to decide if they want to be accurate or just follow newspapers. Not sure the latter helps patients. Psychologisation recognises more influences and there is a lot of supportive literature from medical and psychological journals. Your choice.

I think the definition could be improved. I might have an attempt at making it more precise. But the term "medical gaslighting" is mostly used to refer to a kind of psychologisation. Ultimately the job of me-pedia is to say what the sources say. Do you know where I can find that article? --Pwc (talk) 02:02, September 20, 2022 (UTC)
This is really helpful feedback, thank you. We have a page on psychologization, and while medical gaslighting might involve that, there are other forms. I have altered the introduction to put denying an illness first, to reduce the focus on blaming psychological factors (of course if a mental illness is being denied, it is clearly not psychologization). I struggled to find a peer-reviewed sources - it seems that medical gaslighting has only recently become a term in use hence the referencing of new features, but there might be more good quality peer-reviewed since I originally looked. I much appreciate the feedback. ~Njt (talk) 00:51, September 22, 2022 (UTC)