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== Honorifics == I'm wondering about establishing a policy to standardize use--or not--of titles and honorifics (Dr., Professor, etc.) across MEpedia. I realize this is a challenge given the diversity of usage in different languages, fields, etc. Wikipedia deals with that by never using honorifics and only naming specific degrees and positions held (and only doing so the first time the degree or job is mentioned), and otherwise last name only (after the first use). But, I do see that for most readers of MEpedia, there's likely often value in having someone's title included each time that person is mentioned ("In 2018, Dr. So-and-so wrote a second editorial criticizing...") At the same time, I worry it can be confusing rather than clarifying when people who are MDs, PhDs, and DCs all have the same "Dr" in front of their names--it goes without saying that these are really different qualifications and I'm concerned about misleading readers about what a given person's qualifications are. That's compounded right now by variation within the project: some editors write "Dr. Klimas" every time, others "Dr. Nancy Klimas" once and then "Klimas" subsequently (or some other variation).<br>[[User:JaimeS]], do you or others have thoughts on a rule for handling this to best communicate/contextualize scientific information for a broad audience? (In giving the Klimas example, I'm also realizing setting a consistent standard could also help us reduce unconscious bias.) [[User:Canele|Canele]] ([[User talk:Canele|talk]]) 19:32, 13 April 2019 (EDT) :I'm okay with having this be part of our general formatting. MEpedia 'really' has about 10 regular editors with a few people sweeping in once in awhile, so this will go a long way. However, it may be too much to ask or expect first-time users or someone going into one article to keep this in mind. We will either have lots of corrections to make or we'll have to let it slide sometimes. That said, if we choose a format, then the person's title or degree should be described in detail the first time in any given article (Dr Jane Doe, a professor of Immunology at the University of Y", and not again thereafter -- just using Doe or Jane Doe from then on. [[User:Jaime|Jaime]] ::Full title and specified credentials the first time, then only last name thereafter seems like a good rule to me. And yes agreed: for so many of these things, I don't expect new users to know them off the bat and it's really not a big deal if they mess them up. If anything honestly tidying that sort of thing (what WP calls "wikignoming") makes for a good task on foggy days. Just wanted to decide first what we'd like it to be. But that sounds great, I'll add it (as succinctly as possible). [[User:Canele|Canele]] ([[User talk:Canele|talk]]) 14:04, 16 April 2019 (EDT) ::: I like that phrase: “wikignoming”. That’s my word of the day! :::[[User:Pyrrhus|Pyrrhus]] ([[User talk:Pyrrhus|talk]]) 19:16, 16 April 2019 (EDT) ::::Ah, so glad I could share! The wikignome is a venerated figure on WP. We could incorporate the term more here--really helps emphasize how much value many different types of edits add to the project. [[User:Canele|Canele]] ([[User talk:Canele|talk]]) 01:26, 17 April 2019 (EDT) :::::It's just occurred to me that using titles regularly can be problematic because they are changeable. Eg Dr Simon Wessely became Prof, then Sir. When referring to past work or doesn't seem quite right to consistently refer to someone's early work using their current title somehow. I generally use full name in the first instance on a page, and either last name or both names after - except with bio pages where title is relevant. Several pages will refer to several authors with the same surname too. This isn't a big deal to me. I see this as more a Manual of style or editorial thing since it's not about scientific understanding.[[User:Notjusttired|notjusttired]] ([[User talk:Notjusttired|talk]]) 16:44, 22 April 2019 (EDT) ===Re: Honorifics -- ~~~~=== : Replace this text with your reply
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