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==Everything removed?== One more thing [[User:Notjusttired|notjusttired]]. I saw that you've now deleted everything I've added to the page on Sharpe. Not just the old section that I've updated but also the ones that were brand new and unrelated to what was on the page. So if people now start adding information about Sharpe's bio or his work, they might be doing work or adding info that I've already done (but they can't see that because you deleted it). So we might end up with duplicates. I hope you agree that, even if a lot of changes need to be made to the text I proposed, the final version of the Sharpe page will still look more like the text I wrote than what is currently displayed on the page (simply because it has a lot more information and references). So I think it would make more sense to start working from this version. If the problem is that you do not trust the accuracy of what I wrote perhaps you could just add a warning template that "The neutrality of this article is disputed" or something like that? I'm concerned that if people start working on the page then we might end up with the two versions: the one I wrote and another one that has been worked on during the time my version was not displayed. And that might make it all the more difficult to come up with a consensus version. So what I would suggest is to restore the version of my last edited. That is the text that I propose. You can then make changes to it and comment on it. If you think something important is missing, I'll try to help restore it from the old version. --[[User:Sisyphus|Sisyphus]] ([[User talk:Sisyphus|talk]]) 18:17, September 12, 2019 (EDT) :Did I misunderstand you? I thought you said it was OK to revert because nothing would be lost since it's all stored in different versions. I assumed you meant to copy over content from the talk page after editing/agreeing together. Since doing that all I've done is redo your reference updates plus add s few more. I will add the new sections back in. With the references, it's not a matter of trust. It's a matter of needing citations for everything, and often different interpretations of research or of Sharpe's opinions. Different editors will have different views most likely due to having reading sources that others may not be aware of. And if course that's always a likelihood of misreading or jumping to conclusions even with careful editing, or phrasing something in a way that is interpreted differently by others to what was intended. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. What I would suggest with your edits though, is that instead of removing sentences that you can't find referenced or think are wrong - it's better to put citation needed, then give it a while for another editor to sort that. If they don't, then remove later on. I forgot to suggest earlier - with references it might save work to add mentions of the source in the text - eg "Sharpe and Wessely (1999) found that.... Very fast to add the reference without working out what the number changed to on a long page this this. [[User:Notjusttired|notjusttired]] ([[User talk:Notjusttired|talk]]) 20:54, September 12, 2019 (EDT) ::[[User:Sisyphus]] I've added back in one major new section but brain has packed in so the rest will need to be done another time. Feel free to add back in your new sections, I think there were few more. I would prefer to agree on new headings before going further. I was not aware that the FOI section had gone. Also Sharpe considers CFS a functional somatic syndrome so it doesn't make sense to put this under non-ME/CFS research. I would prefer to not have so many headings with subheadings. What about clarifying the headings instead - eg Oxford criteria for CFS, Fukuda criteria for CFS, Functional Somatic Symptoms heading, MUS. Hope to be back online tomorrow. Sorry for any stress and extra work I may have caused by misunderstanding earlier. [[User:Notjusttired|notjusttired]] ([[User talk:Notjusttired|talk]]) 21:35, September 12, 2019 (EDT) [[User:Notjusttired|notjusttired]] It's not so easy to reinsert a text if there are lots of references (I had some trouble copying the references indirectly from an older version to a newer one). So what I did is I restored the page version that had the most information on it. That was the version where I inserted all my text but where I hadn't deleted the old info. I've then reinstated the edits you made after that version so that these were not lost. So the section on Books, notable studies, letters, media coverage and interviews are now in the version that you last edited it before I did the restoring to the older version. I've also added a cleanup template saying there are duplicates and that the page needs working on. Hope that will inform readers and other editors of the current situation while we work this out.--[[User:Sisyphus|Sisyphus]] ([[User talk:Sisyphus|talk]]) 08:10, September 13, 2019 (EDT) ===Re: Everything removed? -- ~~~~=== : Replace this text with your reply
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