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==Starting new pages== Hi. It's good to see so much content being added, including for treatment centers. If you can use the example [[MEpedia:Article_outlines]] then it will make sure there's some See Also links, Learn more, and should suggest the most appropriate categories. Ideally this should help reduce the number of orphaned pages or pages that are not reachable from categories. Empty headings also prompt other editors wanting to improve Stub pages. Thanks again for your editing. [[User:Notjusttired|notjusttired]] ([[User talk:Notjusttired|talk]]) 20:09, 5 April 2019 (EDT) :Thanks for the kind words [[User:Notjusttired|Njt]]. I definitely do my best to fill in as much as I can though I prefer not to use the outlines; in my experience as a reader of MEpedia, including numerous headers with nothing in them creates visual clutter and avoidable cognitive strain in trying to find what info is available. I'm also not sure I believe it actually succeeds in drawing more edits later on to a given pages (I know that's the hope and it's a good one, but I'm not sure we have evidence people fill those pages in more often than they add to pages without the outlines. Over on Wikipedia, there's a lot of debate about whether the stub tags actually do anything, even with their explicit request for folks to add material.) Given there are many, many more MEpedia readers than editors, I personally favor prioritizing making it easiest for them to access what information is up. I understand others will have different views about the best way to edit, and I am glad the outlines exist as I'm sure they are really helpful to people who want to start a page but don't have a basic sense of what to add, but, just as an explanation as to why when I start a page, I only add the sections that I have the information to fill out. [[User:Canele|Canele]] ([[User talk:Canele|talk]]) 20:34, 5 April 2019 (EDT) ::That's interesting. I don't keep up with Wikipedia myself. If you can always include Categories it should help the page to be found. ::Information overload - this is particularly bad on mobiles / small screens, I've asked for some different skins to be added that will put the side menu at the top and reduce clutter. [[User:Notjusttired|notjusttired]] ([[User talk:Notjusttired|talk]]) 16:40, 7 April 2019 (EDT) :::Thanks so much for putting in that formatting request [[User:Notjusttired|Njt]]; gathering all this info only goes so far if it's difficult for folks to read! And I will do my best to learn the categories. It's honestly never been my strong suit, just not the way my brain works I guess (on Wikipedia I rely on software that semi-automates the process--one day maybe we'll have that too!) but I'll do my best, I started writing up a [[MEpedia:Categories]] page to acquaint myself better and share the info with others. [[User:Canele|Canele]] ([[User talk:Canele|talk]]) 14:57, 8 April 2019 (EDT) === How to learn categories === If someone finds a better way to learn the categories, other than just copying similar pages, or browsing the entire list of categories in [[Special:Categories]], that might be a good thing to explain in the [[MEpedia:Categories]] page. We have a hierarchical category browser at [[:Category:Fundamental]], but it is of limited usefulness. We also have the CategoryTree extension installed. Maybe we should consider one of the category extensions listed here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Category_extensions [[User:Pyrrhus|Pyrrhus]] ([[User talk:Pyrrhus|talk]]) 15:20, 8 April 2019 (EDT) :Oh, you know, [[User:Pyrrhus|Pyrrhus]], I have no idea if we have the dev capacity to do this, but it does seem like the WP extension I mentioned, HotCat, is available for use on other wikis: here's the documentation on [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Gadget-HotCat on Wikimedia Commons]. It's totally amazing: it works in Visual Editor and you just type in a few letters of a category you think might be applicable and then it creates a dropdown menu, much like the search bar, to show you all the options that exist and you select which one/ones you want. It's so simple and saves you from trying to add categories that don't exist, saving, finding out they're redlinks, having to go back and delete those, manually search for which ones do exist, etc. Two thumbs up. [[User:Canele|Canele]] ([[User talk:Canele|talk]]) 15:57, 8 April 2019 (EDT) ::Thanks for the suggestion, I'll definitely look into it! I forgot to mention that the [[Contents]] page is ''supposed'' to be the definitive listing of the categories and where pages belong. However, it's quite outdated and only Admins can update it. ::[[User:Pyrrhus|Pyrrhus]] ([[User talk:Pyrrhus|talk]]) 16:49, 8 April 2019 (EDT)
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